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Jhon Mackenrou

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\was warned multi times came back with insult to admin.\

不不不

I just want to point out that you are just a nub, but you already know so do not be mad babe
Now besides nub player you re trash admin
Make me a favor and increase that ban, 24h it s nothing, make it 1 month at least不不不
 

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Hello Jhon,

Whilst what Blue banned you for isn't exactly a rule, there is still a common sense unwritten rule. Treat others with respect and you will receive it.

There is no need to be a toxic type of person, especially in a game so old as this one. You're use of terminology isn't very impressive, even in my eyes. Should you return, I would like to encourage you to be more open to accepting admin requests. If you cannot respect the people that assist me in keeping the game alive, then at least have some decency to withhold those comments to the confines of your person please.

We're not here to exchange words, we're here to play a game and there are rules that come with it. Again, one of the unwritten ones is that you should "try" show some respect when an Admin is talking to you.

I've seen your chat and how you act in-game, so this was going to happen at some point. The last thing any Admin is expected to do is be talked back to in a condescending tone. If they ask you to play nice, it's for a reason and they're doing their duty. They're not here to insulted, belittled or anything of that type. If however they are abusing their powers, you are most welcome to report them discreetly: https://www.helloclan.eu/staff/report



Regards,
Ice
 

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I was looking for the message you sent me Ice where you said an admin needs to not react to insults from players and instead needs to rise above it. No knock on you Blue this just seems very much like different rules for different people. I do not know why I cannot find the message from you Ice did you erase it?
 

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I was looking for the message you sent me Ice where you said an admin needs to not react to insults from players and instead needs to rise above it. No knock on you Blue this just seems very much like different rules for different people. I do not know why I cannot find the message from you Ice did you erase it?
Hi Rice,

To answer your initial question, no I don't delete evidence. It is in our private conversations, one of the many we've had.



Since you would like to draw me out into the public space regarding what you see as "different rules for different people", allow me to address that for you:

Is it not fair that I grant any other Admin the same amount of chances I gave you to improve your conduct?
  • Remember, I've spoken to you on quite a few occasions. Asking you to handle situations differently. Until they were no longer just a mistake, but an error that was not being corrected.

Is it not fair that I defend an Admin, mitigate the situation as best I can, whilst trying to appease the complainant and then privately speak to the Admin about the situation in question?
  • I was never beating around the bush with you Rice, I was very honest about the fact that I've cleaned up after you a few times. Again, a very good reason as to why staff reports are private. It's hard being both "friend" and "HelloClan Leader" with staff members, give me some credit on that balancing act.

As an addition, is it not fair that I choose to privately speak to the Admin about their conduct?
  • I never draw internal matters out into the open, unless in such a case where it is done by someone else and it's simply unavoidable. I'd rather privately deal with the situation than have a debate publicly, thereby not insulting the staff member in question by making a public spectacle of it. That type of situation is also very unprofessional if it does spew out into the open. Yes...knock off one star on my review for typing this response. I've handled worse than a negative reviews.

I would like to think that this addresses your concerns about me Rice, but then again I can never keep everyone happy. Think of me what you wish you are entitled to your own opinion. I know I've done the right thing though, with both you and Blue, even if there is contention regarding it.



Regards,
Ice
 

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"Doing the right thing is not the problem. Knowing what the right thing is, that's the challenge." Lyndon B. Johnson

For those youngsters out there, when BFV fires up and you hear a male voice talking about "peace in Southeast Asia...", that is US President Lyndon B. Johnson, who I quoted above.
 

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I was looking for the message you sent me Ice where you said an admin needs to not react to insults from players and instead needs to rise above it. No knock on you Blue this just seems very much like different rules for different people. I do not know why I cannot find the message from you Ice did you erase it?
Many players and I have been wondering where you are. Admin or no-Admin, get back in the game soldier! Your BFV friends miss you. NME and I were admins too remember? ;) Also, bring Tina along. I know you have something to do with her disappearance Just kidding!
 

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Many players and I have been wondering where you are. Admin or no-Admin, get back in the game soldier! Your BFV friends miss you. NME and I were admins too remember? ;) Also, bring Tina along. I know you have something to do with her disappearance Just kidding!

Well said Albert. Rice, don't make me come to Wisconsin and slam your head into a door. Get back in the game. You help my kill stats.

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