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Main Rape and Main Taking

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This topic comes up often.

Let's have an open discussion, where each might state their opinion of any proposed solution. This is a gaming group and we play this game we all love and enjoy, most of the time...

It seems like I used to play on a server where you couldn't take main. You could get by the flag but nothing would change. That is a possible "programming" solution.

We could have a rule that there is no main raping by anything that flies at any time. This would allow players to drive tanks into main, boats to main, etc. (This wouldn't solve the need for admin intervention to punish those who violate the rules).

I have heard the arguments, well if a team can't keep more than one flag, they deserve it. I don't agree. You put the best players of the game on the same team and the underdog is toast. It leads to players circling main in choppers killing players spawning over and over. This frustrates them. They go spectate; don't spawn or leave the server. Players with honor and respect hold back and hang out waiting for the team to get air going so they can fight in the air.

I don't know that any part of this game has caused more angst than main attacks.

I support a rule that players may not attack main by air at any time. Mains may be taken but only ground. This will stop players from circling main with choppers spawn killing.

Thank you for allowing me to express my opinion. I would like to hear your opinion and please do so without attacking mine. I'll read and fairly consider your point of view.

If you can do so, without personal attacks, it would be nice to have an open discussion on a topic of interest.

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This has been discussed over and over and over again, I like the rules the way they are that way you can at least end a map by quickly taking the enemies main when it's last flag. Circling and spawn killing is weak for sure but this is war right? I see your point but I'm sure plenty of players enjoy the thrill of flying to the enemies main on last flag and crushing them into submission. Sure it sucks getting spawn killed but the map will end and the game goes on. Just my opinion but as always I am open to changes that will better the experience for all of the players eyy
 

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This has been discussed over and over and over again, eyy

Yes it has, like I said, the topic comes up often.

The game evolves. Times have changed. The maps have changed, jeeps were added to La Drang to improve the game. Ticket speed, count changed. The game changes as do the players.

I honestly don't care if there is a rule change. I love the game with 40 players. When you have but a few players on, I sure hate seeing players leaving the game when the circle rape happens.

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This has been discussed over and over and over again, I like the rules the way they are that way you can at least end a map by quickly taking the enemies main when it's last flag. Circling and spawn killing is weak for sure but this is war right? I see your point but I'm sure plenty of players enjoy the thrill of flying to the enemies main on last flag and crushing them into submission. Sure it sucks getting spawn killed but the map will end and the game goes on. Just my opinion but as always I am open to changes that will better the experience for all of the players eyy

Don't forget, you are a talented player. I rank you right up there with Hellsfury and other quality players. You have integrity as a player. Not all of us are as good as you guys. I wish I were as good but I won't ever be. I have a 12 inch monochrome monitor running on a Tandy tape machine computer from the '60s.
 

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I'm with you for what it's worth Pinky. "That's all I have to say about that".
 

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Yes it has, like I said, the topic comes up often.

The game evolves. Times have changed. The maps have changed, jeeps were added to La Drang to improve the game. Ticket speed, count changed. The game changes as do the players.

I honestly don't care if there is a rule change. I love the game with 40 players. When you have but a few players on, I sure hate seeing players leaving the game when the circle rape happens.

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It wouldn't be so bad but when dealing with team stackers, it screws up the game.
 

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Back in the day if your team was getting smoked ya either dealt with it or you improved your gameplay and came up with ways to change the situation. I get the whole no mainraping thing but to propose anything further than that is preposterous and going to continue softening whats left of the bfv community.
 

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I agree with everything you say pinky, and I also want to say that there is our second server where is a double flag rule - that prohibits any attacks on main before the last flag is captured. I recommend playing there to see the differences, and then it will be possible to draw conclusions whether it is worth it or not.
As for other options, it is possible to make it impossible to capture mainbase flag using ssm, you just need to set the time for changing the flag not 45 seconds as usual, but for example 9999. There are also ways by ssm where you can damage enemy vehicles (any vehicle and soldiers also) when it is on your main, there are many options. But I don’t think that this will be a suitable solution, because as you said that the players are not happy when they are circling over them, now think about whether the players will be happy that they will not be able to capture enemy main ?
 

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Back in the day if your team was getting smoked ya either dealt with it or you improved your gameplay
You have said this in the game. I've been playing this game, off and on, since it came out. I can play this game every day and I'll never be able to get a head shot on an opponent from a block or two away. Never.

We don't all have the same talent. Perhaps it is the monitor we own or our ping or our computer. Perhaps some players have disabilities or eye-hand coordination that doesn't match that of better players. Telling players who are not equal in talent to improve their game play solves nothing because they have the inability to do so. I would love to golf as good as Tiger Woods and I guess all I need to do is improve my gameplay.

Pisky, on Hastings, when I am red, it's always been a desire of mine to move the tunnel to blue main. I get good laughs out of tormenting blue. You are right, taking mains has been part of this game since the start. I would hate to lose that. My purpose in this thread was to seek comment by as many players as possible. But alas, that seems a difficult task.

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I like the way the rules are now. If it comes to a vote, ill vote to keep it the way it is.
Taking away Infantry attack on main in my opinion would be over reaching, and taking away a major highpoint of this game.
I will continue to support keeping the rules as they are now. If you don't want your main taken... Defend it! Ask for help....

My 2 cents worth
 

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I'm with you for what it's worth Pinky. "That's all I have to say about that".

It is unfortunate that we cannot get other players to comment on this topic. It's always the same, few, players. All should be allowed to voice their opinion on any topic. Freely and unfettered.

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It is unfortunate that we cannot get other players to comment on this topic. It's always the same, few, players. All should be allowed to voice their opinion on any topic. Freely and unfettered.
as always
somebody may say that if they silent that they agree - but is not
 

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It is unfortunate that we cannot get other players to comment on this topic. It's always the same, few, players. All should be allowed to voice their opinion on any topic. Freely and unfettered.

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They are allowed or am I missing someting?
 

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as always
somebody may say that if they silent that they agree - but is not

Who said that? Who said if they are silent they agree? Agree with what? Nobody said any such thing that I can see in this thread.
 

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They are allowed or am I missing someting?

Not that I am aware of. They are free to make a comment. I just would like to know why they don't comment. What keeps them from voicing their opinion? I'm just asking.
 

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Not that I am aware of. They are free to make a comment. I just would like to know why they don't comment. What keeps them from voicing their opinion? I'm just asking.
Ah ok. Yeah, interesting question.
 

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Who said that? Who said if they are silent they agree? Agree with what? Nobody said any such thing that I can see in this thread.
We already pass that before - 2 years ago when i was here as cheburator and talk with rus in similar forum theme, and maybe before , so i agree and with LTShaun. But I, just like you, want as many players as possible to speak for it.
 
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